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 Post subject: Transcendence
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:34 pm 
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Orlando,

Having read your commentary on transcendence I can almost wrap my mind around it but wondered if you might be able to expand a bit on the actual technique. You mention a frequency where we can find immortality. Are you talking about a physical form of immortality or a metaphysical type? If physical, how would you address concerns that even the earth won't last forever. What happens to the immortals when the atmopshere is ripped away or the planet is smashed by an asteroid? If it's a metaphysical immortality, what does that look like? Most of all, I'm very curious how the assemblage point plays into this, and would appreciate any additional info you might provide.

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 Post subject: Re: Transcendence
PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:38 pm 
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Dustin Waiting wrote:
Orlando,

Having read your commentary on transcendence I can almost wrap my mind around it but wondered if you might be able to expand a bit on the actual technique. You mention a frequency where we can find immortality. Are you talking about a physical form of immortality or a metaphysical type?


In the sorcerer's world, there is no differentiation between physical and metaphysical, since it is recognized that all things are comprised of energy at their core. right now, you are in an energy body, which m ay be perceived as organic or inorganic, depending entirely on the position of your assemblage point. Within the consensus reality, humans perceive themselves as organic and so they follow the "rule" of organic beings: they are born, the ingest food & drink, they live and, eventually, they die. This might be perceived as the frequency band upon which humans normally operate - and for every position of the assemblage point (or every frequency band, if you prefer) there are rules and programs which operate in the background, virtually invisible to detection unless the individual has achieved a higher awareness than the program itself.

With inorganic beings, the frequency band is such that the rules are different. For example, an inorganic being may appear human or solid to the human range of perception, but if the inorganic being is operating on the assemblage point of an inorganic being, s/he is not subjected to the same rules which would govern the organic being. The assemblage point of some inorganic beings is such that they may appear entirely human but their awareness is such that they know they are inhabiting an energy vessel and so they are not subject to the rules of organic decay or vulnerability. The only real difference is that inorganic beings who were once human have essentially expanded/altered their assemblage point to such a degree that they are no longer entirely 'human', regardless of how they may appear.


Dustin Waiting wrote:
If physical, how would you address concerns that even the earth won't last forever. What happens to the immortals when the atmopshere is ripped away or the planet is smashed by an asteroid?


While physical immortality is a possibility, it is not a desirable one for precisely the kind of reasons you cite here. That which is physical is subject to the laws of the physical world. If an asteroid smashed the earth, those physical immortals would find themselves obliterated along with the rest of the physical matter which comprises the planet. For that reason alone, I have never advocated physical immortality as a long-term option - though in extreme cases, it may be useful as a short-term way to "buy time". The so-called "death defiers" may fit this paradigm, but defying death is not the same as defeating it, which is why it is more reasonable to seek a permanent alteration of the assemblage point which would, in essence, allow the seeker to transcend the physical altogether and inhabit the energetic form or dreaming body. If an asteroid strikes the planet, those in dreaming bodies will simply Dream otherworlds, just as this one is a collective Dreaming.

Dustin Waiting wrote:
If it's a metaphysical immortality, what does that look like?


It "looks" like whatever the will of the individual would suggest. I mean this literally. Once the assemblage point has been shifted sufficiently that the individual has entered into the Dreaming body, it can take any form it might choose, or no form at all.

Dustin Waiting wrote:
Most of all, I'm very curious how the assemblage point plays into this, and would appreciate any additional info you might provide.


The assemblage point is the lens through which you create your world. Humans have a very narrow frequency band in the grand scheme of things. The easiest way to envision this is to consider that a dog can hear things no human ear can detect, and a cat can see at night with the same clarity a human possesses only at full daylight. If one is seeking transcendence or transmogrification, the key to success is learning to expand or significantly alter the position of the assemblage point. To expand it would involve a "shift" of awareness. To alter it permanently would require a "movement" of awareness - from organic being to inorganic being, for example.

How to do that? It may be accomplished temporarily through the use of certain power plants, through trauma (not recommended), or various methods of sensory deprivation which force the brain/mind to essentially re-create itself outside of its sensory-deprived environment. (Dreaming).

To accomplish such a movement on a permanent basis most often requires a long-term commitment to the possibility, a thorough comprehension that all things are comprised of energy, and what amounts to that cubic centimeter of chance at which point one would make the leap from "organic" to "inorganic."

Interesting to note: When I have said that to seekers in the past, their reaction is often to begin expounding the dangers of dabbling with 'the inorganics'. Such a reaction clearly indicates that the seeker is still locked into the consensus and is responding with fear rather than clarity. It is in overcoming that fear, in moving beyond the clarity, that one finds the power with which to make such a shift of the assemblage point permanent.

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 Post subject: Re: Transcendence
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Orlando wrote:
To accomplish such a movement on a permanent basis most often requires a long-term commitment to the possibility, a thorough comprehension that all things are comprised of energy, and what amounts to that cubic centimeter of chance at which point one would make the leap from "organic" to "inorganic."


Like Dustin said, I can almost wrap around this but if it's possible (and it might not be?) could you give a bit more info on the paragraph above? I know some things have to be intuited and if that's the case here no problem. What I'm wondering is whether this is like a meditation thing or a not-doing or what steps someone might take to engage the active process. How would this long term commitment really work as to the ins and outs?

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 Post subject: Re: Transcendence
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Melancholy Man wrote:
Orlando wrote:
To accomplish such a movement on a permanent basis most often requires a long-term commitment to the possibility, a thorough comprehension that all things are comprised of energy, and what amounts to that cubic centimeter of chance at which point one would make the leap from "organic" to "inorganic."


Like Dustin said, I can almost wrap around this but if it's possible (and it might not be?) could you give a bit more info on the paragraph above? I know some things have to be intuited and if that's the case here no problem. What I'm wondering is whether this is like a meditation thing or a not-doing or what steps someone might take to engage the active process. How would this long term commitment really work as to the ins and outs?


Things to consider, in no particular order, as we contemplate transcendence...

Most often, any long term process can only be viewed in hindsight, when one looks back over the bridge to see how the bridge was built. As I have told Della, you have to be immortal before you will know how to become immortal. What does that look like? Simply this: only after you have opened your eyes inside the double will the double be sufficiently real for you to begin creating it in the first place. Only when you have identified your desire will you be sufficiently motivated to manifest it.

Most important: there is an intuitive drive within each warrior that will determine the steps s/he takes with regard to her own path. If your predilection is to seek immortality, you can use that predilection as the driving force to determine the position of the assemblage point. Put another way, what you desire may be used with ruthless intent to manifest not only the 'object' of the desire, but to maintain the desire itself so that it does not go stale and lose itself in the process. If asked to bring this down into a more practical application, I would tell you this: seek what it is in your nature to seek and you will usually find it, or - more importantly - you will create it in the process of searching for it. Neo was not The One until he had reason to be The One.

This, too, is the essence of transcendence. Do not waste time seeking transcendence if you do not desire it. Do not waste energy pursuing things you THINK you should want, but may not want at all. What do YOU want? Of what do YOU Dream?

Is it a meditation or not-doing? That would depend on your predilection. I cannot tell you what to desire, nor how to desire it. What I can tell you is IF you desire transcendence or transmogrification, meditation and not-doing may serve as tools through which 'the way' reveals itself to you.

It has been said that spiritual matters cannot be 'reasoned out'. This is both true and untrue, but mostly it is a dangerous generalization. If you do not apply the energetic probe of thought to a question, it is possible (though not likely) that you may stumble over the answer somewhere down the road, but it leaves much to chance to assume that would be the case. And while it is also true that there may be no direct path to any direct answer, I have found it effective to focus on the question regularly and diligently so as to create a pathway for the answer to manifest. Put another way: think on the question but do not attempt to force an answer, while at the same time remaining open to the likely possibility that the answer will come only when you are not looking for it, and usually in ways that have no direct relation to the question itself.

Bollocks. Sandstorms. Cats with silver whiskers. Owlsong.

If you desire transcendence, focus your questions there - it is the artform of rubbing the energy of your intent against the fabric of the universe.

Transcendence: It begins with a thought. It continues with eliminating the programs which tell you it is not possible. It is accomplished by the literal transformation of desire into manifestation.

The Wright Brothers dreamed of flying.

Of what is your airplane made and how will you build it?

It begins with a thought...

Orlando
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