Maiveeta wrote:
This is an amazing exercise! I have done this and yes, sometimes it can be profoundly painful. I did this exercise with God. At the time I was still pretty set in the Christian value thing....what a week or so that was! We often think the truth will set us free, and it will eventually but that one rocked my world and not in the good way.
That's why I always caution people to be sure this path is what they want, because sometimes saying goodbye to our most treasured belief systems is like experiencing a death. I mean this literally - as I'm sure you know from experience.
Maiveeta wrote:
The sense of betrayal I think was the worst for me.
In that time period I realized the wool had been pulled so completely over my eyes that I began to doubt everything about everything. Ultimately that was a really good thing for me, but at the time it SUCKED!
The thing is, I don't think MOST folks really set out to deceive or betray us. I know that in my case, my parents, teachers & Sunday School teachers were just passing along the information that had been given to them. The thing is... I've always been one of those annoying types who asks too many questions. Like I've been doing with Aff, when I say, "Sure, light exists, but why do we believe it comes from God?" Could it not just as easily come from some other source - whether physical or metaphysical?
There were times when I tried to talk to my mom (a devout Christian) about her beliefs, but as her time on Earth grew shorter, I came to realize that her belief systems had become part of her. They had set down roots, and in her own heart, she had created THAT reality as part of her matrix. Did she really believe it? I don't know. For her sake, I hope she did. But ultimately, there were times when I would see that doubt in her eyes which not even "faith" can assuage. That was the hard part - wondering how one would CHOOSE to go on believing in something in which they clearly did not really believe...
I don't think she set out to deceive or betray me when she tried to upload her religion into my matrix, though I DO question the integrity of high-ranking religious leaders who CLEARLY know better, but choose to do so because there is gain in it (whether financial, power, or some other form of ego-motivated gain).
I've often said that the one man on Earth who would certainly KNOW there is no God is the one who tries the hardest to SELL God to the rest of us. Hint: he's Catholic & wears a funny hat. *heh*
Sorry, all. I don't mean to trample anyone's faith, but at the same time, I have come to see the value in a phrase Orlando coined many years ago:
The destruction of faith is the beginning of evolution.
Without faith, we are free to simply Be.
Maiveeta wrote:
I see the value of this exercise.
I think what Im gonna do is say that there IS magic, and consciousness is a
byproduct of that.

actually thats a pretty big one for me...now Im asking where does the magic come from

oi!
I think it's a worthwhile pursuit, M! My own task which I've set for myself is to challenge myself to say, "I believe in God, based on faith." I really wanna see what that looks like, so I'm stalking it toward a better understanding.
Thanks for being part of the experiment.
