Dreaming My Path

Rada's Dream · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:33 pm

Zamurito wrote:

TSW:

Everything has been moving in the same direction and the omens are quite clear.

How much do we love TSW?

Its dogs, its phantoms, its cozy routines...
How much do we love the cybernetic newspaper?
How much do we love to see what we've written, what others have written to us?
How much do we love our parents, our spouses, our children?
How much do we love our friends?
How much do we love our words?
How much do we love TSW?

Do we love it enough to let it go? I've been told that this is how sorcerers love.

How far can TSW be taken? How much beauty, elegance and art can we bear unto it for the sheer pleasure of doing it, of making it into a work of art?

I don't know...

What we crave for is consensus. Other than that, the work is strictly individualistic. Work is done in solitude, because we face infinity in solitude.

There are all types of consensus. One is achieved through silence. Another one is achieved through words and discussion groups.

We're using it to talk, to express our individual opinions, to tell tales, to quote.

So?

Are we, as the essential matter of TSW, going to behold our collective work and pat ourselves on the back?

I would KNOW that you're out there. I wouldn't need words to know this.

I have to go to knowledge as a man goes to war. I HAVE to be a warrior.

Today; not tomorrow, not in a year.

Today.

This is a humble invitation to war, to knowledge. We could walk this path and find out if it has heart or not.

My life is on the line with my final decision.

I'm doing it with or without you. But it would be great if you came along.

I'm signing off TSW today. I will not necessary unsubscribe, but I'll stop writing to it. If I come back, it will not be before January 1st, 2008.

Further Recapitulation is needed. This was shown to me in Dreaming. I still have some 'energetic reality skeletons' left in the closet, and need be dealt with to further my evolution.

This three months of silence should do it...if not, who knows?

I'll practice living in the Now everyday, Dreaming, joining my unbending intent of freedom with whomever is out there, sharing this solitary, terrible and wonderful path.

Yours,

Zamurito

Zam,

I've always found your inputs encouragging and helpful to my own path and felt there's someone standing intact behind his words. This is another one.... the voice in my head suggested, that I should write how I will miss you/your input and while that might be so, I encouragge you to go and find the proper ground for whatever your heart desires - a place, where Solitude, Aloneness and words alike cease to have it's power over you, a place where you find your own cohesion and Love.

Heh, that might not be accomplished in three months, but who's to say? You are a fine warrior and I believe such a thing exists. Today I really believe!

F.

twyxt · **Posted:** Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:24 pm

Zam,

I know you won't see this. But you already know I'll be with you. I have been there in that place, you can tell by how much I've posted over the years on Rattle and here. So I am very familiar with what you are going through. We'll be waiting. If you'd like, even though we really don't communicate, you can email me. I'll be here for you. I too come and go, stopping posting, going solo going inside to get outside myself to 'find' mySelf.

I Love You.
twyxt

Wanderer · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:57 am **Posts:** 6

I have a little question about the 2nd attention that is related to the dreaming state while you are aware.
How can some one keep his sanity while they are in the 2nd atttention and still be able to function in the daily world
cause this task is impossible for me,I for example take medicine to be able to speake with people around me.
I did though dreamet of Eagles in a matter of fact I heared them but not visualy saw them.
I cant even speake so that people will understand me.
What I mean that when I'm in that state I cant function in the ordinary world tonal right?
Its like a jail I cant move or do a thing.

Quantum Shaman · **Posted:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:36 pm

Greetings, Wanderer, and welcome to The Sorcerer's World.

Mainly I wanted to acknowledge your post, and let you know I will give you a more thorough answer in a couple of days. The forum has been dormant for almost 2 years, but I'm in the process of revamping it, so I'm happy to say...you are the first visitor through these doors in a very long time.

Warm welcome...

Della

Quantum Shaman · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:55 pm

Wanderer wrote:

I have a little question about the 2nd attention that is related to the dreaming state while you are aware.
How can some one keep his sanity while they are in the 2nd atttention and still be able to function in the daily world
cause this task is impossible for me,I for example take medicine to be able to speake with people around me.
I did though dreamet of Eagles in a matter of fact I heared them but not visualy saw them.
I cant even speake so that people will understand me.
What I mean that when I'm in that state I cant function in the ordinary world tonal right?
Its like a jail I cant move or do a thing.

The trick to being able to communicate "between the worlds" is contained in one word: fluidity. Essentially, fluidity allows a warrior to be mentally/spiritually in two or more places at once - because the assemblage point itself is not static, but is instead non-local and ubiquitous throughout the space/time continuum and beyond.

With that said, "dreaming awake" is a case of bi-location - being in 2 places at once. A a warrior develops fluidity, s/he can move between the 2 worlds seamlessly. So even if you were dreaming awake, there's no reason you couldn't turn to the guy next to you on the bus and discuss the latest debacle in the world of politics, then return just as quickly to the world of second attention.

Fluidity is the key.

Wanderer · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:57 am **Posts:** 6

Quantum Shaman wrote:

Wanderer wrote:

I have a little question about the 2nd attention that is related to the dreaming state while you are aware.
How can some one keep his sanity while they are in the 2nd atttention and still be able to function in the daily world
cause this task is impossible for me,I for example take medicine to be able to speake with people around me.
I did though dreamet of Eagles in a matter of fact I heared them but not visualy saw them.
I cant even speake so that people will understand me.
What I mean that when I'm in that state I cant function in the ordinary world tonal right?
Its like a jail I cant move or do a thing.

The trick to being able to communicate "between the worlds" is contained in one word: fluidity. Essentially, fluidity allows a warrior to be mentally/spiritually in two or more places at once - because the assemblage point itself is not static, but is instead non-local and ubiquitous throughout the space/time continuum and beyond.

With that said, "dreaming awake" is a case of bi-location - being in 2 places at once. A a warrior develops fluidity, s/he can move between the 2 worlds seamlessly. So even if you were dreaming awake, there's no reason you couldn't turn to the guy next to you on the bus and discuss the latest debacle in the world of politics, then return just as quickly to the world of second attention.

Fluidity is the key.

What happens If I can't become fluid?

Quantum Shaman · **Posted:** Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:12 pm

Quantum Shaman wrote:

Fluidity is the key.

Wanderer wrote:

What happens If I can't become fluid?

If you can't become fluid, your attention gets "caught" in one world or the other - or somewhere in between. If you get "caught" in the tonal, chances are you become an accountant, abandon "the path" and turn into a solid member of society. Heh. If you get caught in second attention, your body may still exist here in the tonal, but your mind would be divided and chances are you would lose cohesion in the here and now.

If you get caught somewhere in between... it would be akin to losing reference points in both words, like existing on a bridge between two worlds, where you could see both, but could not reach either.

Fluidity is a requirement.

Wanderer · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:57 am **Posts:** 6

Quantum Shaman wrote:

Fluidity is the key.

Wanderer wrote:

What happens If I can't become fluid?

If you can't become fluid, your attention gets "caught" in one world or the other - or somewhere in between. If you get "caught" in the tonal, chances are you become an accountant, abandon "the path" and turn into a solid member of society. Heh. If you get caught in second attention, your body may still exist here in the tonal, but your mind would be divided and chances are you would lose cohesion in the here and now.

If you get caught somewhere in between... it would be akin to losing reference points in both words, like existing on a bridge between two worlds, where you could see both, but could not reach either.

Fluidity is a requirement.

What happens if I lose my human form?I mean totally

Quantum Shaman · **Posted:** Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:05 pm

Wanderer wrote:

Quantum Shaman wrote:

Fluidity is the key.

Wanderer wrote:

What happens If I can't become fluid?

If you can't become fluid, your attention gets "caught" in one world or the other - or somewhere in between. If you get "caught" in the tonal, chances are you become an accountant, abandon "the path" and turn into a solid member of society. Heh. If you get caught in second attention, your body may still exist here in the tonal, but your mind would be divided and chances are you would lose cohesion in the here and now.

If you get caught somewhere in between... it would be akin to losing reference points in both words, like existing on a bridge between two worlds, where you could see both, but could not reach either.

Fluidity is a requirement.

What happens if I lose my human form?I mean totally

To lose the humanform can have several levels of interpretation. Losing the humanform as it relates to the Castaneda books would mean losing what amounts to all the programs and belief systems that make one "human". What would happen? You would exist in the state of freedom.

Losing the humanform can also refer to shedding the mortal body and/or embracing one's totality. At that point, consciousness exists as an inorganic construct, capable of continued existence outside the organic shell. It could be said that you become the double. It could also be said that consciousness attaches itself to an extant EM field. Inorganic awareness would be the result.

Wanderer · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:57 am **Posts:** 6

What do you mean by saying "programs"?

Quantum Shaman · **Posted:** Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:48 am

Wanderer wrote:

What do you mean by saying "programs"?

Simply put, The Program is the collective series of belief systems which go to make up the "operating system" inside all humans,but especially those who have not yet become aware of The Program itself. Castaneda called it "the foreign installation", but I don't use that term much because it carries too much baggage, and people often think it means there is an "extraterrestrial" or at the very least "extant" entity responsible for why humans think, believe and behave as they do. In reality, The Program is us - rather like a hive mind of collective human beliefs.

We tend to accept the reality with which we are presented ("The Truman Show"). What that really means is that until we are really REQUIRED to do so, we don't question reality much, if at all. It's when we start to question that we encounter the tip of The Program. The more we question, the more wecome to realize that most of what we accept as Truth is really just the foreign installation in operation.

Since you're new here and I don't know if you've been on the path for years, months or days, I will recommend my workshop, Undoing the Programs, which is available on my website at:

http://www.quantumshaman.com/html/workshops.htm

Not trying to sell ya anything. The workshop is available if you happen to need it. Otherwise... carry on.

Many blessings,
Della

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