The Sorcerer's World

notes on the assemblage point

This website is a fascinating look at the assemblage point through the ages.

What I found most interesting was the part about how the position of the ap is accountable for illness and disease. Ie the displacement of the ap can make you sick.

This has implications in the way we treat and heal people, in that all that is required is to shift their aps back to a 'healthy' position.

I have had little experience with the ap, although I am able to notice displacements when I am angry or have a cold, for example.

Just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the healing side of the things, as well as the parts about the double's ap which is supposedly where dreaming takes place.

hope everyone is ok, not much activity on this forum recently!

Very true. It's also important as a healer to understand that illness displaces the AP every bit as much as the AP may be displaced BY illness. IOW - which came first - chicken or egg? Where assemblage point healing is concerned, it may not be critical to know the answer to that question in every case, but it's a question I try to answer whenever possible, because it may affect the manner in which I would use an assemblage point shift to facilitate healing (or not). And it may also indirectly affect the patient's mindset. I've seen quite a few healers tell their patients that "All disease begins in the mind." While that may be true (or not), that kind of statement can have an adverse affect on the patient's mindset and may actually affect their ability to heal. If they feel they are somehow to blame for their own illness, it sets up a negative mental environment and that's the last thing you want to do as a healer.

In the case of my mother, who passed away in 2006, I would clearly *see* that the dis-ease did not really originate in her mind, but in the organic confines of her human body. We are mortal creatures (at least that's how we're programmed), and as such we are contained in an organic structure that is subject to dis-ease and decay. Those states of being result in shifts of the assemblage point to a minor or major degree, depending on the severity of the disease and - especially - the level of pain/discomfort.

If you would like to read a bit more about assemblage point healing, there's a page on my website that explains some of the ins and outs of how it's done.

http://www.quantumshaman.com/html/spirit_healing.htm

The most important piece of information (to me) is that energy work on that level does not even require that two people be in the same physical location. That's always a plus, but not a requirement. We are made of energy and all energy is interconnected, so it is possible to perform energy shifts through the dreaming bodies of patient/healer.



Would that it were that simple! The problem I've encountered (both as a healer and a patient) is that moving the assemblage point isn't the same thing as picking up a paper weight and moving it to a different location on one's desk. The assemblage point has what amounts to a "memory" - and as a result, it will almost invariably try to remain in its PRESENT comfort zone. Doesn't mean one is "comfortable". Simply means the AP seeks its own level. If it's in a position of dis-ease, it will seek that level. If in a position of health, it will seek that level. Quite often, the key to moving it effectively lies in a balance between tonal/nagual with regard to a shift. Example: if a patient is conscious, I often work toward shifting their AP through a dialogue with them - which is geared toward reminding them that they are energy beings and encouraging them to participate in their own healing process. It's also critically important that the patient understands that the real power of healing comes from them - not from the healer, at least not in the big picture. The healer provides focus and an energetic push, but that is only a tool to be used by the patient.

It's also VITALLY important to have the patient's permission before performing any energy shfits. At times, this permission may be gained through a gnosis-dialogue with their energy body, but if the patient is conscious and verbal, I would always recommend making it a dialogue in the tonal as well as an agreement in the nagual. Reason being: It isn't up to the healer to play god. The patient is his/her own god, and if they are experiencing dis-ease or even impending death as a part of their own individual journey, it would be a violation of their free will to impose an unwanted healing onto them.



In this post, I'm talking solely about healing on the physical level. Dealing with the assemblage point of the double gets into a whole other realm - you might find something worthwhile in the thread, "The Dual Assemblage Point of Man".

Some folks use the terms "double" and "energy body" interchangeably. I myself make a distinction, in that I think our "energy body" is connected to our mortal body - the so-called "ghost inside the machine." The double is a projection of self into the infinite, and takes on a life of its own. It is still a key element of self - perhaps THE key element to our evolution - but it has a range of independence that far exceeds the "energy body."

Getting rid of all the trolls has left the place a bit empty. Best way to get things moving again is to get involved, ask questions, post your own thoughts and ideas and that usually encourages others to do the same.

Thanks for being here!

PS, was talking to Della a few nights ago and she mentioned she's run out of things to say off the top of her head. I argued with her about that but realized later it's probably true in one sense. It isn't that we run out of knowledge or information, but like the old saying around here goes, "I am helpless before all possibility." That being true it's really important for everybody to get involved with their own questions and ideas. Otherwise it's a deadzone.

Asolutely. The AP is "traditionally" positioned on the right side, near the shoulder blade. When it moves to the left, our perception drifts more toward the nagual. When it moves up or down, perception may shift into the (so-called) "ethereal" realms or the realm of the inorganic beings. Of course, these are very broad generalities, and everyone's experience will be slightly different.

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The AP for myself, my experience, appears in the position of right, then slowly (unless blown, heaven forbid)! shifts to the left overtime. Thats where the heart chakra is, and lets face it, heart chakra is the 'center' of us, a place which needs to have utmost work. All chakras do (mind esp), but the heart (and the path with a...) needs it especially. If that one can be mastered, the rest can fall into place in various ways. A short cut if you will.

Well hell just being in close proximity to a person with a balanced AP will assist at least a little in moving the sick persons AP to a more balanced place. Actually the wrong kinda result can also occur. See when I first started with new dialogues and incorporated them into my practice (R.N.) you can actually take a schizophrenic with very unstable AP to a very stable place and you'd think that would be great right?? Well think again. Imagine having these voices for soooooo many years that they have become a part of you and suddenly they are no longer talking to you...... If anyone thinks that a person cannot die of depression well that is most certainly not true.



I can't help this..Hey if anyone sees my double around, will you please tell him to pay me the money he owes me !! Ha !!

Oh my bad, I read quantum mechanics post after the first post only after i replied to the initial post and damn, that dude really knows what the hell he's talking about !! You go dude. Only thing is, in order to have a positive outcome in assisting someone 's AP to move to a more stable place you gotta lie cheat and steal. You'll take on tooooo much of the persons ether..ah junk, emotional attachments and those kinda things have a tendency to burn your ass. Nope, lie right to there face with a great big compassionate smile. See there is not enuf time... Ah hell if theres ever gonna be a whole new way of lookin at thing its gotta start somewhere.